Openoffice-os4 January 2005

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Project Management
by Mark bond 08 Jan '05

08 Jan '05

Hi all, I'll probably regret this, but I'll put myself forward to HELP with the project management: First of all I think this is way to big a project for 1 person to manage it (especially as it will be done on a voluntary basis) and so if possible the project should be broken down ito several tasks (or sub-projects) and each sub-project has its own manager, with possibly one co-ordinator at the top level. About me: I am currently a Systems Manager at The Open University, this involves (amongst other things) managing IT projects (never done a coding project though). I'm also one of the site developers at AW.net, I have (in my university years ;-) ) done some C, but its not up to much currently. The project: We will need to: Have a discussion and work out all of the tasks that need completing, this will need to be broken down into phases (ie time ordered). We will need a project schedule putting together (PM's job), tasks will need allocating (again PM's job). This should preferably be on line and graphical, as an Open project it'll also allow us to point people at it so they can get an instant update. Once tasks are allocated, its the PM's job to hastle, bully and otherwise ensure they get done on time, or adjust the schedule if there is going to be unavoidable slippage. Regards, Mark

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Re: status update please (Cross post)
by Max Larsson 08 Jan '05

08 Jan '05

Hi, > Can someone update us with whats happening with this project? in > particular, how many people are working on it, whats been accomplished, > whats left to do, is work going ok? I is very curious! For my part i am trying to build the nspr under OS3.9 running inside UAE. By the way i am documneting how to set up a development envirnoment for OS3.9. After that i want to document it for OS4. If think that's critical point to document what for programms are needed to build the beast. And i would suggest try to make for the OpenOffice port the same. OpenOffice has the luck to focus mainly on OS4 and not addressing all OS3.9,OS4 and Morphos regards Max

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SVN
by Ochal Christophe 08 Jan '05

08 Jan '05

Hi all, I think we should start with porting SVN to AOS (3.x & 4 if possible), not only because it looks better then CVS, but also because we have an SVN server (Olegil's machine) and it would be a good test & help us gain experiance as a team. ---- Amon_Re Ochal Christophe Webmaster for: http://www.kefren.be http://www.metalfest.be http://amigadev.amigaworld.net

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Concentrate the discussion
by Hans-Joerg Frieden 08 Jan '05

08 Jan '05

Hi! I've seen the discussion raging on on aw.net, amigadev and elsewhere. Can we concentrate it on one point please (preferrably this mailing list) so that we don't need to monitor too many web fora? I definitely lack the time for that. Regards, -- Hans-Joerg Frieden, Hans-JoergF(a)hyperion-entertainment.biz - I-amar prestar aen / han mathon ne nen han mathon ne chae / a han noston ned 'wilith

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Where do we go from here?
by Christophe Ochal 08 Jan '05

08 Jan '05

Hello, In a recent post Tonyw made a suggestion for setting up commité for managing this project, and i like the idea, but i would prepose some alternations to his suggestion. His idea was to have 3 persons in charge, a linux head, an AOS head & someone to be in charge of rescource management. I think you should have a 4th person on a higher level, to whom the 3 senior developers can report & who makes the calls based on the suggestions from all 3 senior devs. The head honcho should, just as the others, be elected by the whole team. Any feedback? Kind regards -- Amon_Re Christophe Ochal Hoge Buizemont 168 9500 Geraardsbergen, Belgium Mobile: 0032 (0)479/46 45 74 http://www.kefren.be http://www.metalfest.be

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Website
by David Doyle 08 Jan '05

08 Jan '05

Hi Eventhough I'm busing with amigaworld.net I'm willing to organise a website for the project and users where we can keep everything under the one roof, but first I need to know the official name so I can design the logo. Regards David Doyle (DaveyD) Owner/Webmaster Amigaworld.net

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Let's get to the point: Project manager
by Thomas Frieden 08 Jan '05

08 Jan '05

Hi, Before we loos ourselves in discussion, how about appointing a project manager ? Regards, -- Thomas Frieden <ThomasF(a)hyperion-entertainment.biz> Hyperion Entertainment - Naur dan i-deryg lhuin

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RE: [OO.org-OS4] Python 2.4
by edward.dore＠xionis.com 08 Jan '05

08 Jan '05

Is the XML module built in? This will be required for sure. Thanks, Edward Original Message: ----------------- Hi! I just wanted to remark that with respect to Python which is required for the build process of OOo, I have tried updating the old quick-and-dirty port to Python 2.4 yesterday, and the result is yet another quick-and-dirty port of Python 2.4 for AmigaOS 4. ATM only has a few buildin modules, I don't have any idea how much functionality is required for building, but I plan to work on this port if I have some time (maybe this weekend) to get it up to specs (just thought I'd mention this to avoid duplicate work) Regards, -- Hans-Joerg Frieden, Hans-JoergF(a)hyperion-entertainment.biz - I-amar prestar aen / han mathon ne nen han mathon ne chae / a han noston ned 'wilith _______________________________________________ Openoffice-os4 mailing list Openoffice-os4(a)samfundet.no https://lists.samfundet.no/mailman/listinfo/openoffice-os4 -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

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I'm in
by Ochal Christophe 08 Jan '05

08 Jan '05

Ok guys, I've made it onto the list, who else is here already? Cheers --- Amon_Re Ochal Christophe Webmaster for: http://www.kefren.be http://www.metalfest.be http://amigadev.amigaworld.net

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RE: [OO.org-OS4] Re: SVN
by edward.dore＠xionis.com 08 Jan '05

08 Jan '05

Ooops, wrong window. Sorry guys, Edward Original Message: ----------------- From: edward.dore(a)xionis.com edward.dore(a)xionis.com Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 19:22:36 -0500 To: openoffice-os4(a)samfundet.no Subject: RE: [OO.org-OS4] Re: SVN Not off hand but I can check when I get home Original Message: ----------------- On 2005-01-07, Christophe Ochal wrote: <SNIP> >>> This could be a problem, what's the situation with AOS4 & fork()? >> >> It's a no-go I'm afraid. It can never work on AmigaOS unless there are >> quite a lot of (incompatbile) changes... > > What are the possible work-arrounds? Basically there are three uses of fork() which can be worked around in a reasonable way. The first is the (in)famous fork()+exec() example where the only real use of fork is to start a new process. The second is when fork() is used to detach from a shell (this can just be removed without any serious loss). The third is when fork() is used for a worker function and the parent process has little or no state which is relevant for the child. This could e.g. be in a simple webserver. In almost all other cases, major surgery will be needed and putting a program under the knife to remove a fork() is more than a spoonfull of work. -Peter aka. Archprogrammer Reality is for people who cannot face ScienceFiction. Only lefthanded people are in their right minds. _______________________________________________ Openoffice-os4 mailing list Openoffice-os4(a)samfundet.no https://lists.samfundet.no/mailman/listinfo/openoffice-os4 -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . _______________________________________________ Openoffice-os4 mailing list Openoffice-os4(a)samfundet.no https://lists.samfundet.no/mailman/listinfo/openoffice-os4 -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

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