Hi!
I've seen the discussion raging on on aw.net, amigadev and elsewhere. Can we concentrate it on one point please (preferrably this mailing list) so that we don't need to monitor too many web fora? I definitely lack the time for that.
Regards,
On 2005-01-08, Hans-Joerg Frieden wrote:
I've seen the discussion raging on on aw.net, amigadev and elsewhere. Can we concentrate it on one point please (preferrably this mailing list) so that we don't need to monitor too many web fora? I definitely lack the time for that.
I will second that. (That way I will not have to hunt around to see what I have missed when I get back home after the weekend :)
Also a note about CVS/SVN and porting. We are not in any real hurry, are we?
We will probably have to port at least some other of OOo:s dependencies first (good subproject maybe) and doing a SVN port will not be impossible. (If we want to do it)
We have time, I think. Especielly since we still have to organise ourselves. :-)
-Peter aka. Archprogrammer
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Hello Peter
On 08/01/2005, you wrote:
On 2005-01-08, Hans-Joerg Frieden wrote:
I've seen the discussion raging on on aw.net, amigadev and elsewhere. Can we concentrate it on one point please (preferrably this mailing list) so that we don't need to monitor too many web fora? I definitely lack the time for that.
I will second that. (That way I will not have to hunt around to see what I have missed when I get back home after the weekend :)
I closed the forums, they are read only for now.
Also a note about CVS/SVN and porting. We are not in any real hurry, are we?
I'm guessing some people are eager to get their hands in the code, but rushing things is bad.
Tonyw's suggestion of a commité is more intresting atm, as we need direction & management.
We will probably have to port at least some other of OOo:s dependencies first (good subproject maybe) and doing a SVN port will not be impossible. (If we want to do it)
Nothing is impossible, it might just take long ;)
We have time, I think. Especielly since we still have to organise ourselves. :-)
That's the issue, organising ourselves.
Regards
Hello Hans-Joerg
On 08/01/2005, you wrote:
Hi!
I've seen the discussion raging on on aw.net, amigadev and elsewhere. Can we concentrate it on one point please (preferrably this mailing list) so that we don't need to monitor too many web fora? I definitely lack the time for that.
I'll lock the threads for the time being.
Regards
Hans-Joerg Frieden wrote:
Hi!
And the same to you. And everyone else.
For those who need an introduction, I am a Linux-user, sysadmin, programmer, civil engineer (degree in Medical Cybernetics, very useful. NOT! :-) ) who do programming (C for Atmel, PIC16 and Linux), HTML (typically with CGI scripts written in C) and electronics for money, and HTML/PHP/postgreSQL, electronics, bicycle trips and play three or four wind instruments on my "spare" time.
I actually work with what used to be my hobby, so now I've started planning a small and portable ultrasound device (could be used to measure distances, movement etc. The ultimate geek gadget!) as a hobby. Ultrasound is what civil engineering in medical cybernetics is ALL about, btw :-)
I've seen the discussion raging on on aw.net, amigadev and elsewhere. Can we concentrate it on one point please (preferrably this mailing list) so that we don't need to monitor too many web fora? I definitely lack the time for that.
Agreed. I just couldn't there for a while, cause mozilla had eaten all my emails and I was sitting outside the firewall :-)
My main points from the forum discussions are:
1: Decide on a manager. 2: Manager goes on to discuss porting with sander.vesik@ireland.sun.com (correct way to start, according to porting.openoffice.org) 3: We decide how to host various things like mail, http, versioning control system, and who is responsible for what. 4: Those of us responsible for something (from step 3) starts putting together the resources needed. 5: The rest of us start looking at what needs to be done to the codebase.
Starting off in any other direction just doesn't work for me.
PS: I've cheated on step three to five, since I'm already hosting a mailing list and am busy putting everything into my SVN repository (but if the project team wants to use CVS instead, go ahead. I sure ain't stopping you. You can even copy MINE once it's a bit more finished :-) ). While doing this I'm identifying which directories belong to OO.org and which are just full of download/somelibrary.tar.gz's. These obviously needs to go in their respective libs/ or helpers/ subdirs in the repository.
PPS: If the team decides to not use my servers for this, that is just fine with me, but except for the fact that the mailing list has @samfundet.no I don't think you'll find many servers with better uptime/cpu-speed/network connection for free. It's a 24/7 Linux server on a dual 1.6GHz AMD MP with a direct 100Mbit up it's arse :-P
PPPS: The libraries are things like neon, libxml2 (together this forms most of what we needed to port SVN anyway :-P ), libz, libexpat, flatxmlbinaries (I presume only ONE xml toolkit is necessary :-P) etc etc.
P4S: Now I REALLY need to eat something, so will take a long break from this discussion while I fetch some blood sugar and other things (need new engine for my Mini-Z as well ;-) ). There's no end to the foolishness one does at 9 am after having been up since 2... (WAY out of sync with the rest of the time zone here...)
Hi,
good people agree on discussing here and not at several places.
Ole-Egil Hvitmyren wrote:
My main points from the forum discussions are:
1: Decide on a manager. 2: Manager goes on to discuss porting with sander.vesik@ireland.sun.com (correct way to start, according to porting.openoffice.org) 3: We decide how to host various things like mail, http, versioning control system, and who is responsible for what. 4: Those of us responsible for something (from step 3) starts putting together the resources needed. 5: The rest of us start looking at what needs to be done to the codebase.
Starting off in any other direction just doesn't work for me.
I like the list, maybe others like to add points to it. Point 1. and 2. are the next logical steps, whether we choose a manager or a comittee or whatever is not important to me but like Tony Wyatt wrote there has to be something in charge to get the beast ported.
I would recommend everybody having a look at http://porting.openoffice.org/ if you haven't yet.
We are not the first ones and we can only learn from the predecessors. Also the site offers some resources we can make use of if we choose to do so (website etc.).
cu, Markus
Ole-Egil Hvitmyren wrote:
1: Decide on a manager.
Most important thing ATM IMO.
2: Manager goes on to discuss porting with sander.vesik@ireland.sun.com (correct way to start, according to porting.openoffice.org)
Also very important. Like I said before, find out if the 2.0 SAL codebase is sufficiently stable so that we can expect no more (severe) changes.
Regards,