Hello olegil@samfundet.no
On 09/01/2005, you wrote:
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I'm going to abuse my administrative powers a bit here and say that until we have set up the organizational structure, no other discussions are allowed except in threads marked "OT: Name"
Erm, wouldn't it be best we get organised asap? So i'd say screw the name for now
Now, about that IRC conference thingie. I suggest we plan at least two or three ahead, or we set up a regular meeting schedule. The latter is possibly the best way to do it, because then everyone knows there'll be people there from x to y in the morning and z to v in the afternoon. Outside these "business hours" pelple can discuss what they want, but when we have a prpr session, everything MUST be ON-TOPIC. ALL OFF-TOPIC discussions should take place in a social chatroom. This to make life easier for the poor bastard in charge of collecting the logs and extracting all the bits that are relevant (about that... I think this should be an official secretary/moderator position, and I am considering applying for it. Even though it is an important position, at least it's easily replaceable, so I shouldn't loose any sleep over it). All timestamps should be specified using World Clock, like this:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=1&day=9&y...
Say we were to have an IRC session at 8PM UTC this evening, then everyone would know from the above link what this translates to in their local timezone.
Sounds good to me, but do take in account that just about all of us have day jobs, so that makes it almost a weekend only activity
About the contacting we need to do with upstream: We now have a couple of candidates for leadership, let's have a vote (give us a deadline of say 24 hours to vote). The person who gets the head honcho position assembles the comittee (unless I misunderstood this) and contacts OO.org about the port. I'm on webmail, so don't have my 5 point list handy, but I think the idea was that after we have appointed head honcho, we agree on a few other key positions and start working. I would also like to take the time to suggest that someone who has done at least one port already writes down a few lines of typical obstacles in getting off the ground. We have a bunch of libraries and smaller tools that needs porting, and I'm thinking about things like "./configure" and so on. How do you do it on OS4? On OS3.9 I had pdksh... ;-) Once we start figuring out all the dependencies we should also think about searching for more people. If there are some who have no interest in getting OO.org ported, maybe there are more people like Claus Desler who have an interest in one or more libraries/tools we also need. If they can help with that specific part, then go their separate ways, fine. They'll get credit for that, and the Amiga scene will be a better place. I'm even desperate enough to say that even MorphOS/AROS developers are welcome to join if they wanna contribute to porting a library both they and we need. Many of the libraries involved would be beneficial on OS3.9 and downwards as well.
It's impossible to arbitarely exclude coders because of their AROS or MOS backgrounds, sure, the main focus we have is AOS, doesn't mean that we shouldn't allow them to help.
Being desperate doesn't apply here, it's common sense, MOS/AROS coders might not be able to write AOS4 specific code, but they could write it portable enough to be easilly transferred.
PS: I almost suggested "Amiga Porting Effort: OpenOffice.org", because it makes such a nice acronym :-P ("ooh ooh" is pretty close to "ook ook" *hum*) PPS: apeoo.org is available as well :-D
DaveyD already has a domain.
Regards