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That idea I had.
by Ole-Egil Hvitmyren 05 Aug '05

05 Aug '05

It's time to get started on some more work. I mentioned yesterday that I had an idea for something that might bring in a couple of more programmers. Apoligies in advance for stepping on anyones toes here, but I think we've been a bit too silent lately. And that isn't good in the long run... The idea is this: Construct a proper dependency graph for OO.org, and then use this to construct an "enabling end-products" graph. I'm not sure what to call it, but I basically mean taking the dependecies we have in OO.org, and figuring out what other useful and/or cool pieces of software will be that much closer to a port if/when each dependency is taken care of. That way both we and people who come across some kind of source they want to port will know where to start. I'm thinking of doing it as a graphical diagram as well as a relational database (because I do both of those things a lot already). That way you could search in the database for a piece of software to see what dependencies there are and if anyone is working on them, or search for a dependency and see how useful it is. Does it sound useful? I think it would make it a lot easier for people like Captain Moo Moo and Joppe, who were both looking for projects to feed to students. Just putting all of them into the OO.org pool would be too much noise and not enough gain, but splitting them into teams to tackle smaller (but still important) parts of the project or even build other projects on top of our dependencies to extend the software base of the Amiga would be great. So we need to concentrate more on those dependencies. I know Henning has spent a shitload of time on this already, I would actually like to know at this point who _is a programmer_ and _has some time this coming weekend_ (and if yes on both points, _when_). Yes, an IRC schedule. We won't be needing non-programmers, but an hour or two of nitty gritty code reviews and notes taken which can be built into a database would be a good place to start if we want to attract some more attention. For one, it would serve as a kind of "progress report" to the outside world. I'll be sketching down the outline of a database tomorrow, if any programmers has some free time between friday evening and monday morning, european time, send me a PRIVATE EMAIL with the fixed world-clock time ( http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedform.html ) like this: start: url-specifying-start-of-period stop: url-specifying-end-of-period repeat for each period If you have better ideas for scheduling practices, please make note of them IN ADDITION to following my wish. At least this once, we'll see if we use your ideas in the future, ok? :-) And I repeat, we really only need people who can go over code/search elsewhere to look for obvious dependencies. I'm sure we won't find all dependecies (and their order/structure, which is just as important) just yet, but maybe we can start filling in something. It would be awesome if someone could find a member of an existing oo.org porting project team and get some input there. That would actually help a lot. Of course, if people choose to ignore my idea then that is perfectly acceptable, but I hope I'll then at least get a response indicating that the email has been read but the idea rejected. Even though it ended up as a rather long email in the end... -- We'll double-cross that bridge when we get there.

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Greetings...
by Piyush Khengar 28 Jul '05

28 Jul '05

From Captain Moo Moo! Was nice to meet some of the team at AmiGBG. I look forward to becoming involved in the porting efforts! Regards, Piyush -- ************************************** Dr. Piyush Khengar Lecturer Centre for Telecommunications Research, Room 224 King's College London University of London 26-29 Drury Lane London WC2B 5RL, UK Tel.: +44 (0)20 7848 1916 Mob.: +44 (0)7866 624 521 Fax.: +44 (0)20 7848 2664 E.mail: piyush.khengar(a)kcl.ac.uk URL1: www.ctr.kcl.ac.uk URL2: www.londontaekwondo.co.uk **************************************

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AmiGBG
by Rene W. Olsen 27 Jul '05

27 Jul '05

Hello Okey 1.5 hours untill I start my journey to AmiGBG Kind regards Rene W. Olsen

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AmigaOpenoffice pr material (fwd)
by Christophe Ochal 21 Jul '05

21 Jul '05

I received this email from Mattias, and i have already replied with the third draft of the pdf in attachment, but if there is an update, please let him know too. I've got one hell of a backlog of mails atm, so i might have missed things Hello, *** FORWARDED MESSAGE *** Original author: Mattias Karlsson Written on: 16/07/2005 *** Beginning of forwarded message *** Hi Ochal! I will be sharing tables with Ole-Egil at the AmiGBG fair. As he is on a bicycle many miles from home I offered to get his pr material printed, he said that he has given my email to the AmigaOpenOffice team and they would send me an email with the PDF that should be printed. The deadline of my printing office is very soon and I still haven't got an email. Could you see to that the pr material is email to me as soon as possible? Kind regards, /Mattias *** End of forwarded message *** Kind regards -- What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone? -- Bertolt Brecht Amon_Re Christophe Ochal Hoge Buizemont 168 9500 Geraardsbergen, Belgium Mobile: 0032 (0)479/46 45 74 http://www.kefren.be http://www.metalfest.be

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Libusb is finished
by Rene W. Olsen 12 Jul '05

12 Jul '05

Hello Libusb has been finished for a couple of days now :-D You can se a screen grap of me running a test program (loadlib2) for libusb http://www.rwo.dk/libusb-grap.jpg Kind regards Rene W. Olsen

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more possible help?
by Mark Bond 06 Jul '05

06 Jul '05

Hello, http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=13478&forum=3&st… Regards, Mark

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little update
by Rene W. Olsen 05 Jul '05

05 Jul '05

Hello, Last nigth, Thomas Graff and I did some debuging of libusb, and we found out that my 2 weeks old problem wasent with Libusb but in uhci driver.. If/when libusb asked for a string of 255 bytes (max size of strings) the uchi driver whould STALL and the stack whould hang :/ The usb documentation clearly state that its leagal to ask for a big buffer and just get a smaller one returned.. so that one bug for the Sirion team to work out, but for now I have made a small workaround for strings but I dont think this workaroung will work for bulk/interrupt read/writes but time will tell. Wrigth now there is only bulk/interrupt read and write that are missing before its finished, all the init code seams to work. My little test program that scan the devices fully works, so I really need to find a driver there uses bulk or interrupt so I can finishes the last functions. I dont know if anyone has started porting SANE? for I'm pretty sure SANE uses interrupt or bulk for scanning. so MAYBE i'll have a look at it. PS: I'm pretty glad that we found this irritation bug, it have honted my the last 2 weeks :D <- (Yes I'm happy now) PSS: If there is some OS4 beta testers ind here that want to tryet for me, so just say so. (its have to be os4 betatester for I use some new functions that are not pressent in OS4 Update3) PSSS: sorry its goes at this low speed, I'm really trying to do my best but there is so mutch USB stuff I had to learn and now it seams I'm also figting with Sirion bugs... not easy I tell you. Kind regards Rene W. Olsen

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IMPORTANT (Re: AmiGBG)
by Olegil at home 04 Jul '05

04 Jul '05

Olly Hodgson said: > On 7/1/05, Ole-Egil Hvitmyren <olegil(a)samfundet.no> wrote: > >> If you guys ever get something out the door, send it to Mattias >> directly, > > Some sort of email address would be handy... > Sorry. Thought I had mentioned it already. mattias(a)amigbg.com I'm in Gothenburg now, and I was just asked if AmiGBG can officially announce our presence on their website tomorrow. I'll be there, so if there will be something to present I'm all for it. You guys get back to me with "yep, there'll be something, go ahead", or "bah, go home" before tomorrow, ok? :-P OT: Couldn't resist: >> Hope to see some of you guys there. I'll be the dog tired guy on the >> bicycle :-P > > Have fun. Bikes farkin rock :o) > Ouch. Ouch. Ouch (I'm _sitting down_ while typing this, need I say more?) 210km down, lots more to go. Need a new rear wheel and some new tires, otherwise I'm doing great. -- We'll jump off that bridge when we get there.

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Fwd: Why I'm not the PR guy (Re: [OO.org-OS4] Re: AmiGBG)
by Olly Hodgson 01 Jul '05

01 Jul '05

Buggrit! Managed to send this and a previous mail direct to Stephane... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Olly Hodgson Date: Jun 29, 2005 12:13 AM On 6/28/05, Olly Hodgson <oliver.hodgson(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Subtly updated again. Added credit for the photo and centralised the > logo. Still need a highres logo.... Actually, now at the point where I just need a high res boing ball. If anybody's got one lying around... (I found <http://wuarchive.wustl.edu/aminet/pix/misc/AmigaBoingV.readme> but its useless - got a massive old Amiga and a tick across it) <http://thinkdrastic.net/journal/wp-content/AOOoPoster5.jpg> The original PSD and a PDF are uploading here should anybody want to have a play: <http://thinkdrastic.net/journal/wp-content/AOOo-Poster1.psd> (36.6mb) <http://thinkdrastic.net/journal/wp-content/AOOo-Poster1.pdf> (26.2mb) They'll be a while, I only have 256kb upload here. Best check them in the morning :)

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AmiGBG
by Ochal Christophe 29 Jun '05

29 Jun '05

Hi all, Since Stephane Richard has done a great work on the article sofar, i was wondering whom of us will be able to attend amigbg? Also, who is able to be there AND give a presentation? Come on now, don't be shy.... PS: I'll be most likely be attending & doing the same ---- Amon_Re Ochal Christophe Webmaster for: http://www.kefren.be http://www.metalfest.be http://amigadev.amigaworld.net

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realloc()
by Rene W. Olsen 25 Jun '05

25 Jun '05

Hello, I don't know what realloc() does, the code looks like this while (size > 0) { interface->altsetting = realloc(interface->altsetting, sizeof(struct usb_interface_descriptor) * (interface->num_altsetting + 1)); if (!interface->altsetting) { if (usb_debug >= 1) fprintf(stderr, "couldn't malloc interface->altsetting\n"); return -1; } .... } So I was wonder is its extend or just allocating a new block of memory? Kind regards Rene W. Olsen

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Test
by Andy Hall 24 Jun '05

24 Jun '05

Testing - Mails don't seem to be getting through -- Thanks, Andy Hall

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Re: [OO.org-OS4] Re: Dependencies
by Thomas Frieden 22 Jun '05

22 Jun '05

Hi, Henning Nielsen Lund wrote: >>It depends. Clib2 has more functionality, newlib is shared, which is a >>big advantage (considering the amount of stuff binaries). >> >> > >Couldn't you convince Olaf to make Clib2 to a shared library ;-) > > Not in a million years, believe me... >>Of course, only the new, unreleased compiler has this stuff, but we're >>going to release a new SDK soon, plus, we're moving the compiler and >>tools from our internal CVS over to sourceforge. >> >> > >Nice, I am sure that this is going to be very welcome around the world :-) > > Yeah, and it will keep people off my back asking for the source code or patches ;) Actually, we still actively supported a 68k target for the compiler (generating code for 68k, that is). Our hope is that we can somewhat unify the different compiler efforts, making a common code base for different targets and hosts. Regards, -- Thomas Frieden <ThomasF(a)hyperion-entertainment.biz> Hyperion Entertainment - Naur dan i-deryg lhuin

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Re: [OO.org-OS4] Re: Dependencies
by Thomas Frieden 22 Jun '05

22 Jun '05

Hi, Henning Nielsen Lund wrote: >Just a litle important question... are we going to use clib2 or newlib? > > It depends. Clib2 has more functionality, newlib is shared, which is a big advantage (considering the amount of stuff binaries). The best idea is to make it "selectable" in all the makefile we create ourselves (with configure, it's done at configure time, anyway). Take a look at how I solved that in the polygon clipper makefile. The "-mcrt=lib" option makes this rather simple. Of course, only the new, unreleased compiler has this stuff, but we're going to release a new SDK soon, plus, we're moving the compiler and tools from our internal CVS over to sourceforge. Regards, -- Thomas Frieden <ThomasF(a)hyperion-entertainment.biz> Hyperion Entertainment - Naur dan i-deryg lhuin

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Re: [OO.org-OS4] Dependencies
by Olly Hodgson 22 Jun '05

22 Jun '05

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Olly Hodgson <oliver.hodgson(a)gmail.com> On 6/16/05, Thomas Frieden <ThomasF(a)hyperion-entertainment.biz> wrote: > Are we talking about this one ? > > http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/aig/staff/alan/software/ > > If yes, consider it ported :) It's just one .c and one .h file and > compiles out of the box. That looks right :) I'll update the wiki. Amon_re - should this sort of thing be added to our CVS?

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Fwd: Re: Fwd: Team Content page (site related)
by Mark Bond 20 Jun '05

20 Jun '05

** Begin of forwarded message * Date: 20/062005 11:00:23 From: Henning Nielsen Lund <hnl_dk(a)stofanet.dk> Subject: Re: Fwd: Team Content page (site related) --- Forwarded message follows --- Hello Mark, On 2005/0620, you wrote: > * Begin of forwarded message > Date: 20/062005 10:12:22 > From: Mark Bond <mark(a)icestarmedia.com> > Subject: Re: Team Content page (site related) > --- Forwarded message follows --- > Hello Christophe, > On 18/062005, you wrote: >> Hello Christophe >> small update: >> On 18/062005, you wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Been writing a small content page for the site with a small description >>> of the team, it's VERY INCOMPLETE, so feedback is welcomed ;) (aswell >>> as spelling corrections) >>> >> --- begin --- >> The team: >> The team behind this effort comes from all over the world, each member >> bringing in his or her own specialty. >> Currently, the following people are active on the project: >> Management: >> Ochal Christophe (team leader) >> David Doyle (webmaster) > err, I'm still here, demanding updates from people, and handing out a few > tasks now and then I am here too (thought I had send a mail yesterday, but I can't find it...). I got a bit more sparetime now, and hope that I will be able to use it on my Amiga :-) > Mark > * End of forwarded message > ____________ > Openoffice-os4 mailing list > Openoffice-os4(a)samfundet.no > https:/lists.samfundet.nomailmanlistinfo/openoffice-os4 Best regards hnl_dk - Henning Nielsen Lund ** End of forwarded message *

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Fwd: Re: Team Content page (site related)
by Mark Bond 20 Jun '05

20 Jun '05

** Begin of forwarded message * Date: 20/062005 10:12:22 From: Mark Bond <mark(a)icestarmedia.com> Subject: Re: Team Content page (site related) --- Forwarded message follows --- Hello Christophe, On 18/062005, you wrote: > Hello Christophe > small update: > On 18/062005, you wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> Been writing a small content page for the site with a small description >> of the team, it's VERY INCOMPLETE, so feedback is welcomed ;) (aswell >> as spelling corrections) >> > --- begin --- > The team: > The team behind this effort comes from all over the world, each member > bringing in his or her own specialty. > Currently, the following people are active on the project: > Management: > Ochal Christophe (team leader) > David Doyle (webmaster) err, I'm still here, demanding updates from people, and handing out a few tasks now and then Mark ** End of forwarded message *

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Re: [OO.org-OS4] Re: AmiGBG
by Daniel Weßling 19 Jun '05

19 Jun '05

Hello... long time I wasn't here... just got back and had to load some hundreds of eMails ;-)) seems the Aoo efford is getting better and better every day... nice draft btw. I would like to get a T-shirt too... mhh... not that one with a coder but... ;-)) kr Jonny_Rico aka Daniel Weßling "Effort to port OpenOffice.org to AmigaOS4" <openoffice-os4(a)samfundet.no> schrieb am 19.06.05 18:12:29: Hello, On 18/6/05 10:02 pm, "Olegil at home" <olegil(a)samfundet.no> wrote: > If we don't want a table, I'll be distributing AmigaRulez flyers wearing > their t-shirt instead. How about wearing a T-shirt with the logo AOO.o logo and the words "Official Team Grumpy Git"* on it? :-) Hmmn, if any coders are going they could have "Buy me a drink and I might just port OpenOffice" T-shirts. The possibilities are endless!! :-D * and I mean grumpy git in an affectionate way (we love you really :-D) -- Thanks, Andy Hall _______________________________________________ Openoffice-os4 mailing list Openoffice-os4(a)samfundet.no https://lists.samfundet.no/mailman/listinfo/openoffice-os4 _________________________________________________________________________ Mit der Gruppen-SMS von WEB.DE FreeMail können Sie eine SMS an alle Freunde gleichzeitig schicken: http://freemail.web.de/features/?mc=021179

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Team Content page (site related)
by Christophe Ochal 18 Jun '05

18 Jun '05

Hello, Been writing a small content page for the site with a small description of the team, it's VERY INCOMPLETE, so feedback is welcomed ;) (aswell as spelling corrections) --- begin --- The team: The team behind this effort comes from all over the world, each member bringing in his or her own specialty. Currently, the following people are active on the project: Management: Ochal Christophe (team leader) David Doyle (webmaster) Programmers: Thomas Frieden Hans Jorg Frieden Tony Wyatt Paul Heams Public Relations & translations Stephane Richard Rose Humphrey --- end --- Kind regards -- A fool-proof method for sculpting an elephant: first, get a huge block of marble; then you chip away everything that doesn't look like an elephant. Amon_Re Christophe Ochal Hoge Buizemont 168 9500 Geraardsbergen, Belgium Mobile: 0032 (0)479/46 45 74 http://www.kefren.be http://www.metalfest.be

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Dependencies
by Olly Hodgson 17 Jun '05

17 Jun '05

Right, here's a list of dependencies taken from AmigaOpenOffice.org. I've stripped out the ones that are apparently already available for OS4. Which ones are being worked on, which ones need more research, and are there any that we already have? - Network Audio System (audio) - Dmake - Build Environment Tool - NP_SDK - Sane - STLPort - C++ Standard Template Library (Std2) - Twain - Neon - glibc 2.1.x or higher - Perl 5 - csh - gpc general polygon clipper library - Ant Build Environment

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Re: [OO.org-OS4] Dependencies
by Olly Hodgson 17 Jun '05

17 Jun '05

On 6/16/05, Thomas Frieden <ThomasF(a)hyperion-entertainment.biz> wrote: > >- Dmake - Build Environment Tool > > Good you mention it. I've built a version that uses newlib V3, so now > with Update 3 (which contains newlib V3) out, I can release that... Good, good :) > >- STLPort - C++ Standard Template Library (Std2) > > Steven Solie already ported that. Sweet. > >- glibc 2.1.x or higher > > Hmm, are you sure about this one ? Basically, this is a C library, > meaning it's equivalent to newlib or clib2... Are there any special > functions necessary ? I'm not sure, no, I'm just asking the questions that appear to be unanswered on the wiki :) > >- Ant Build Environment > > Needs Java, IIRC... OK then, we need to figure out if we really need ANT then....

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Reminder
by Ochal Christophe 16 Jun '05

16 Jun '05

Awhile ago i posted a mail with the question if any of the PR guys here were willing to write an article/make a presentation for amiGBG, but nobody volenteered. Is anyone willing to take this upon him? Cheers

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LibUSB
by Rene W. Olsen 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

I'm happy to anounce that the first tranfer from usb unit to a driver using libusb have been done. :-D There is still issues left before I can release any thing, but I'm getting there :-) Kind regards Rene W. Olsen

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Library problem
by Rene W. Olsen 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

I got a problem with expunge() When my library gets expunge'd I want to release all the resources. I have already make the free functions but the problem is that they are in "main" interface and expunge is "manager" interface, so is there a way to call the "main" interface from the "manager" interface? I guess this is a quiestion for the Friedens Bros. hope you can help!! Kind regards Rene W. Olsen

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Article for amiGBG (fwd)
by Christophe Ochal 08 Jun '05

08 Jun '05

Hello, *** FORWARDED MESSAGE *** Original author: Christophe Ochal Written on: 01/06/2005 *** Beginning of forwarded message *** Hello, Say, any of you PR people willing to write up an article for amiGBG? (Or any of you planning to be there?) I received an inquiry for more info about the project, but i'm not very good at writing texts. The one who does it gets a cookie ;) Kind regards -- I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter. -- Blaise Pascal Amon_Re Christophe Ochal Hoge Buizemont 168 9500 Geraardsbergen, Belgium Mobile: 0032 (0)479/46 45 74 http://www.kefren.be http://www.metalfest.be *** End of forwarded message *** Kind regards -- Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most times he will pick himself up and carry on... -- Winston Churchill Amon_Re Christophe Ochal Hoge Buizemont 168 9500 Geraardsbergen, Belgium Mobile: 0032 (0)479/46 45 74 http://www.kefren.be http://www.metalfest.be

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