Hello,
Ok guys, everyone who has some code to contribute, you will now be able to ;) http://sourceforge.net/projects/amiopenoffice/
Should we start with importing the current CVS copy we have? (Olegil's 'head') or start from scratch?
Also, Archprogrammer, could you take over the csh port to gcc from TonyW?
Kind regards
On 2005-01-18, Christophe Ochal wrote:
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Also, Archprogrammer, could you take over the csh port to gcc from TonyW?
Ok. Will do.
(You heard that, TonyW. Mail me a quick summary of what you have found/done so far and I will take it from there.)
I will also take the opportunity to write a bit about the OOo dependencies. After examining the code a bit I do not think it is realistic to make a complete dependency graph by friday. I would instead suggest that we concentrate on identifying good candidates for initial ports. This would mean modules/libraries with few or no sub-dependencies and which we can test as we go along.
One example of such a project could be to port and test the UNO framework which is used pervasively throughout the OOo code. (This requires some more investigation, but I think it might be a good candidate)
Comments? Opinions? Corrections? Rants?
-Peter aka. Archprogrammer
Reality is for people who cannot face ScienceFiction. Only lefthanded people are in their right minds.
Hello Peter
Peter Bengtsson wrote at 18.01.2005 19:01:29:
On 2005-01-18, Christophe Ochal wrote:
Also, Archprogrammer, could you take over the csh port to gcc from TonyW?
Ok. Will do.
(You heard that, TonyW. Mail me a quick summary of what you have found/done so far and I will take it from there.)
I will also take the opportunity to write a bit about the OOo dependencies. After examining the code a bit I do not think it is realistic to make a complete dependency graph by friday. I would instead suggest that we concentrate on identifying good candidates for initial ports. This would mean modules/libraries with few or no sub-dependencies and which we can test as we go along.
One example of such a project could be to port and test the UNO framework which is used pervasively throughout the OOo code. (This requires some more investigation, but I think it might be a good candidate)
Comments? Opinions? Corrections? Rants?
I fully agree with you, it makes MUCH MORE sense to divide the whole branch into a lot of smaller projects, so this way we have both the ported applications (like curl ie. :) available for the community and also get a better "feeling" how this all works together.
We should use sourceforge to add/modify the divided projects, and keep the main OO branch out there until we can really start to take the big babe. Just my 2 cents.
Regards,
Hi Sascha,
On 18/01/2005, you wrote:
(You heard that, TonyW. Mail me a quick summary of what you have found/done so far and I will take it from there.)
Wilco.
I fully agree with you, it makes MUCH MORE sense to divide the whole branch into a lot of smaller projects, so this way we have both the ported applications (like curl ie. :) available for the community and also get a better "feeling" how this all works together.
What about testing? How are we going to test the sub-branches?
cheers
Hello Tony
Tony Wyatt wrote at 18.01.2005 22:15:50:
I fully agree with you, it makes MUCH MORE sense to divide the whole branch into a lot of smaller projects, so this way we have both the ported applications (like curl ie. :) available for the community and also get a better "feeling" how this all works together.
What about testing? How are we going to test the sub-branches?
Well as long as the sub-projects can be used "stand-alone" i do not see much problems there, i.e. curl can be easily tested without OO, same goes for various other "small" components.
I have no idea how it is planed to actually build a openoffice version later, AFAIK OO can be compiled only on the platform it is intended to run on, this is turn means that we have to build it under OS4 (my prefered way anyway), and this requires a lot of other things like python, perl, autoconf, automake to be ported first. If I'm completly wrong here please correct me, but that's how I have currently understand the build process.
Regards,
Hi Sascha,
On 18/01/2005, you wrote:
I have no idea how it is planed to actually build a openoffice version later, AFAIK OO can be compiled only on the platform it is intended to run on, this is turn means that we have to build it under OS4 (my prefered way anyway), and this requires a lot of other things like python, perl, autoconf, automake to be ported first. If I'm completly wrong here please correct me, but that's how I have currently understand the build process.
I think that's right. So it won't work until it works, if you know what I mean.
I really like being able to build and test parts of a project before they are integrated.
cheers
Hello Tony
On 18/01/2005, you wrote:
Hi Sascha,
On 18/01/2005, you wrote:
(You heard that, TonyW. Mail me a quick summary of what you have found/done so far and I will take it from there.)
Wilco.
I fully agree with you, it makes MUCH MORE sense to divide the whole branch into a lot of smaller projects, so this way we have both the ported applications (like curl ie. :) available for the community and also get a better "feeling" how this all works together.
What about testing? How are we going to test the sub-branches?
Dependencies as curl & aspell should also have a stand alone executable, we can test those that way
Regards
Hello Sascha
On 18/01/2005, you wrote:
I fully agree with you, it makes MUCH MORE sense to divide the whole branch into a lot of smaller projects, so this way we have both the ported applications (like curl ie. :) available for the community and also get a better "feeling" how this all works together.
We should use sourceforge to add/modify the divided projects, and keep the main OO branch out there until we can really start to take the big babe. Just my 2 cents.
Sounds good to me
Regards
On 2005-01-18, Christophe Ochal wrote:
Hello Sascha
On 18/01/2005, you wrote:
I fully agree with you, it makes MUCH MORE sense to divide the whole branch into a lot of smaller projects, so this way we have both the ported applications (like curl ie. :) available for the community and also get a better "feeling" how this all works together.
No argument there - except that my point was that even the work of finding out all dependencies would be too much to begin with. :-)
Finding the dependencies of a sub-project should be much easier and will substantially contribute to the overall dependancy status of the OOo port as we start to eliminate common dependencies. (e.g. several sub-project depend to some degree on autotools)
I suggest that I, hnl_dk, SieGel and TonyW (as time permits) attempt to determine two (or more) projects each which appear to be good candidates for porting (i.e. realtively "standalone" projects).
Duplicate proposals would not be a problem since this only affirms the status of that sub-project.
Do not forget to check if a port is already available (e.g. zlib).
This can then be used as material for the discussion on friday. (@olegil: Do you have any plan as to when yet?)
Additional investigation of sub-projects and dependencies can then continue alongside initial porting efforts.
Sounds ok? Don't just trust me, THINK! :-)
We should use sourceforge to add/modify the divided projects, and keep the main OO branch out there until we can really start to take the big babe. Just my 2 cents.
Sounds good to me
I'll third that. :-)
-Peter aka. Archprogrammer
Reality is for people who cannot face ScienceFiction. Only lefthanded people are in their right minds.
Op 19-jan-05 om 00:31 heeft Peter Bengtsson het volgende geschreven:
This can then be used as material for the discussion on friday. (@olegil: Do you have any plan as to when yet?)
Erm, the meeting was on monday ;)
Additional investigation of sub-projects and dependencies can then continue alongside initial porting efforts.
Sounds ok? Don't just trust me, THINK! :-)
Sounds good to me, you have green light.
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Tony Wyatt wrote:
Hi Ochal,
On 19/01/2005, you wrote:
This can then be used as material for the discussion on friday. (@olegil: Do you have any plan as to when yet?)
Nope. Cause I was told the 24th ;-) And I'm busy as heck...
Erm, the meeting was on monday ;)
There was a meeting on Monday????
Not WAS, IS. And definetly not YOUR monday :-)
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Preferably somewhere in the middle. As in, late Sunday, early Monday, late Monday. All UTC :-)
Try to think of more than one period. The best answer is of course "any time". Giving me two hours where you know everyone else is supposed to be sleeping because you're on the other side of the world is pretty much useless. Much better to try and shift the vote just slightly, as it were (as in, getting up earlier or going to bed later to catch a discussion, and us shifting the times a bit to match your availability) :-)
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Have fun
Op 19-jan-05 om 10:04 heeft Tony Wyatt het volgende geschreven:
Hi Ochal,
On 19/01/2005, you wrote:
This can then be used as material for the discussion on friday. (@olegil: Do you have any plan as to when yet?)
Erm, the meeting was on monday ;)
There was a meeting on Monday????
Yes, this was agreed upon on the previous meeting, it's also in the summery of last meeting here:
http://amigaopenoffice.org/index.php? option=com_wikidoc&task=viewcontent&docid=2&Itemid=27&sid=11&cid=11
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Hi,
Christophe Ochal wrote:
Ok guys, everyone who has some code to contribute, you will now be able to ;) http://sourceforge.net/projects/amiopenoffice/
Not without adding users to the project, I'd say ;)
I'm "tfrieden" on Sourceforge...
Regards,
Hello Thomas
On 18/01/2005, you wrote:
Hi,
Christophe Ochal wrote:
Ok guys, everyone who has some code to contribute, you will now be able to ;) http://sourceforge.net/projects/amiopenoffice/
Not without adding users to the project, I'd say ;)
I'm "tfrieden" on Sourceforge...
done
Regards
Christophe Ochal wrote:
Hello Thomas
On 18/01/2005, you wrote:
Hi,
Christophe Ochal wrote:
Ok guys, everyone who has some code to contribute, you will now be able to ;) http://sourceforge.net/projects/amiopenoffice/
Not without adding users to the project, I'd say ;)
I'm "tfrieden" on Sourceforge...
done
hnl_dk
Regards
Hello Henning
On 18/01/2005, you wrote:
Added you to the list
Regards
Christophe Ochal wrote:
Hello,
Ok guys, everyone who has some code to contribute, you will now be able to ;) http://sourceforge.net/projects/amiopenoffice/
You should link the homepage to our homepage and not to the standard one...
Should we start with importing the current CVS copy we have? (Olegil's 'head') or start from scratch?
Also, Archprogrammer, could you take over the csh port to gcc from TonyW?
Kind regards
Christophe
Could you change the 'home page' link in the menu to point to amigaopenoffice.org
Regards David Doyle (DaveyD) Owner/Webmaster Amigaworld.net
----- Original Message ----- From: "Christophe Ochal" ochal@kefren.be To: openoffice-os4@samfundet.no Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 6:49 PM Subject: [OO.org-OS4] Sourceforge project online
Hello,
Ok guys, everyone who has some code to contribute, you will now be able to ;) http://sourceforge.net/projects/amiopenoffice/
Should we start with importing the current CVS copy we have? (Olegil's 'head') or start from scratch?
Also, Archprogrammer, could you take over the csh port to gcc from TonyW?
Kind regards
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Hello David
On 18/01/2005, you wrote:
Christophe
Could you change the 'home page' link in the menu to point to amigaopenoffice.org
It should've been changed already? Lemme check
Regards
Christophe Ochal wrote:
Can you add me ('hfrieden') to the project? Thanks.
Regards,
Hello Christophe
Christophe Ochal wrote at 18.01.2005 18:49:57:
Hello,
Ok guys, everyone who has some code to contribute, you will now be able to ;) http://sourceforge.net/projects/amiopenoffice/
Should we start with importing the current CVS copy we have? (Olegil's 'head') or start from scratch?
I would prefer to start from scratch, IMO it is useless to import that non-working CVS tree, I've tried several times to compile the branch including CVS updates but to no avail. However there is some work done on the problematic files, so I skip currently the compile tries and working on dependencies, too.
BTW: I'm "siegel2001" on sourceforge.net
Regards,
Ok guys, everyone who has some code to contribute, you will now be able to ;) http://sourceforge.net/projects/amiopenoffice/
I am alexwe on SourceForge.
Alex.