Hi Tony, TW>> Ok, can everyone give me some feedback on what they're working atm? TW> I've had a look at BerkeleyDB, gmp and Kaffe. To build on A1/OS4, all depend TW> on a working shell and several utilities (like grep, sed, etc). The shell TW> distributed with the latest SDK does not fit this need yet. TW> I know a small group is working on ABC-Shell. I've offered help to Henning TW> but received no reply. I didn't want to distract Thomas. You mean http://www.broad.ology.org.uk/amiga/archives/, this type of ABC-Shell? I don't know how it works or what it should do (no coder myself) :-( but you could ask Andy Broad <andy@broad.ology.org.uk>, the author, if there's something coming along with it. I don't even know it this is the OS3.x version. When running it under OS4, i get: sh: j_ttyinit: can't set close-on-exec flag: Function not implemented # Ciao Hubert