Hi, i found today the follwoing page about the Mac OS X ort http://porting.openoffice.org/mac/timeline.html and the following comment by another port. http://porting.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=14476 These information could be helpfull. Max -- ciao,... mighty max http://www.freepatents.org +++ Sparen Sie mit GMX DSL +++ http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl AKTION f�r Wechsler: DSL-Tarife ab 3,99 EUR/Monat + Startguthaben
Max Larsson wrote:
These information could be helpfull.
I can only stress again that the Mac people actually already *have* a good X11 server implementation. I don't think that we want to have OOo in an AmiX11 window, so the only option would be to re-implement X ourselves. Regards, -- Hans-Joerg Frieden, Hans-JoergF@hyperion-entertainment.biz - I-amar prestar aen / han mathon ne nen han mathon ne chae / a han noston ned 'wilith
Hans-Joerg Frieden wrote:
Max Larsson wrote:
These information could be helpfull.
I can only stress again that the Mac people actually already *have* a good X11 server implementation. I don't think that we want to have OOo in an AmiX11 window, so the only option would be to re-implement X ourselves.
XAmi worked very nice for me, I've used X11 a bunch of times before on Amiga. When it comes to time-to-market, X11 is going to be YEARS ahead of a native port. At least that's what the analysis from the guy behind NeoOffice/J suggests. So while most people should work on the native things, we should make sure it stays useable on XAmi at all times. -- We'll double-cross that bridge when we get there.
Tony Wyatt wrote:
Hi Ole-Egil,
On 17/01/2005, you wrote:
XAmi worked very nice for me, I've used X11 a bunch of times before on Amiga. When it comes to time-to-market, X11 is going to be YEARS ahead of a native port.
Is that the "AmiWin" from Aminet?
cheers
Tony, No XAmi is a different beast see here: http://dspach.free.fr/amiga/xami/ Mark
Hi Olegil, On 17/01/2005, I wrote:
XAmi worked very nice for me, I've used X11 a bunch of times before on Amiga. When it comes to time-to-market, X11 is going to be YEARS ahead of a native port.
Is that the "AmiWin" from Aminet?
Sorry, I must have mis-Googled it. Found it now. cheers
Tony Wyatt wrote:
Hi Ole-Egil,
On 17/01/2005, you wrote:
XAmi worked very nice for me, I've used X11 a bunch of times before on Amiga. When it comes to time-to-market, X11 is going to be YEARS ahead of a native port.
Is that the "AmiWin" from Aminet?
No. http://dspach.free.fr/amiga/xami/ -- We'll double-cross that bridge when we get there.
Ole-Egil Hvitmyren wrote:
XAmi worked very nice for me, I've used X11 a bunch of times before on Amiga. When it comes to time-to-market, X11 is going to be YEARS ahead of a native port. At least that's what the analysis from the guy behind NeoOffice/J suggests. So while most people should work on the native things, we should make sure it stays useable on XAmi at all times.
MacOS' X11 is a rootless server that runs on their desktop, using Aqua'ish windows and all. If you already have something like that, then I guess it would be the better idea. It might even be the better idea to go the same route for an Amiga port, I just simply don't know what would be more work. Regards, -- Hans-Joerg Frieden, Hans-JoergF@hyperion-entertainment.biz - I-amar prestar aen / han mathon ne nen han mathon ne chae / a han noston ned 'wilith
Hans-Joerg Frieden wrote:
Ole-Egil Hvitmyren wrote:
XAmi worked very nice for me, I've used X11 a bunch of times before on Amiga. When it comes to time-to-market, X11 is going to be YEARS ahead of a native port. At least that's what the analysis from the guy behind NeoOffice/J suggests. So while most people should work on the native things, we should make sure it stays useable on XAmi at all times.
MacOS' X11 is a rootless server that runs on their desktop, using Aqua'ish windows and all. If you already have something like that, then I guess it would be the better idea. It might even be the better idea to go the same route for an Amiga port, I just simply don't know what would be more work.
Regards,
XAmi is a 68k X11 server from the web page: Xami is an X11 server for Amiga that can take advantage of hardware capabilities of the graphic system for acceleration. It may be launched from Workbench or CLI, uses the current keyboard mapping and does not need any extra libraries such as ixemul. There is no source on the web page so it looks like it'll probab ly only be available in 68k version, probably not what we want for a beast sucha s OpenOffice.org. Although it may be an interim solution, whilst we get the GUI ported? Mark
Hi Mark, On 17/01/2005, you wrote:
XAmi is a 68k X11 server from the web page:
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There is no source on the web page so it looks like it'll probab ly only be available in 68k version, probably not what we want for a beast sucha s OpenOffice.org.
Perhaps someONE should contact the author to see if he is interested in releasing the sources to us? cheers
Le 17/01/2005, Mark bond a écrit :
XAmi is a 68k X11 server from the web page:
Xami is an X11 server for Amiga that can take advantage of hardware capabilities of the graphic system for acceleration. It may be launched from Workbench or CLI, uses the current keyboard mapping and does not need any extra libraries such as ixemul.
There is no source on the web page so it looks like it'll probab ly only be available in 68k version, probably not what we want for a beast sucha s OpenOffice.org.
I would remind those present that the Xami page is hosted by free.*fr* :) Perhaps I should speak nicely to the young gentleman and see if a OS4 native version might not be forthcoming? Salutations -- Rose Humphrey /anarchic_teapot/
Op 17-jan-05 om 16:58 heeft Rose Humphrey het volgende geschreven:
I would remind those present that the Xami page is hosted by free.*fr* :)
Perhaps I should speak nicely to the young gentleman and see if a OS4 native version might not be forthcoming?
You could try :)
---- Amon_Re Ochal Christophe Webmaster for: http://www.kefren.be http://www.metalfest.be http://amigadev.amigaworld.net
Le 17/01/2005, Ochal Christophe a écrit :
Op 17-jan-05 om 16:58 heeft Rose Humphrey het volgende geschreven:
I would remind those present that the Xami page is hosted by free.*fr* :)
Perhaps I should speak nicely to the young gentleman and see if a OS4 native version might not be forthcoming?
You could try :)
Trying ;) Salutations -- Rose Humphrey /anarchic_teapot/
Hi ! Hans-Joerg Frieden wrote:
MacOS' X11 is a rootless server that runs on their desktop, using Aqua'ish windows and all. If you already have something like that, then I guess it would be the better idea. It might even be the better idea to go the same route for an Amiga port, I just simply don't know what would be more work.
A rootless X-server would certainly be a great addition to OS 4, but IMO we should stick to native GFX. Unless someone wants to make such a product anyway and wants to contribute ;-) regards Alexander Lohrmann -- "It can't rain all the time"
Hi, my post, wasn't about to suggest using X11. I think i could be usefull for the first step, but a native gui port is the way to go. My intention was just to share the information others have made with a port of OpenOffice and maybe to learn from them. Max
Hans-Joerg Frieden wrote:
MacOS' X11 is a rootless server that runs on their desktop, using Aqua'ish windows and all. If you already have something like that, then I guess it would be the better idea. It might even be the better idea to go the same route for an Amiga port, I just simply don't know what would be more work.
A rootless X-server would certainly be a great addition to OS 4, but IMO we should stick to native GFX. Unless someone wants to make such a product anyway and wants to contribute ;-)
regards
Alexander Lohrmann
-- "It can't rain all the time"
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On 2005-01-17, Max Larsson wrote:
Hi,
my post, wasn't about to suggest using X11. I think i could be usefull for the first step, but a native gui port is the way to go.
The idea is not bad and it may be that we end up doing it partially anyway. Not by writing an X server, but possibly by wrapping som Xlib functions - but it is far too early to say anything definite yet. I am currently going through the source tree and trying to figure out what everything is. I have had a little less time than I hoped, but things are moving forward. Now, if only the source tree had been a little more documented and if only the comments had all been in English... (Some comments are in German and have probably been there since the old StarOffice days) -Peter aka. Archprogrammer Reality is for people who cannot face ScienceFiction. Only lefthanded people are in their right minds.
Ole-Egil Hvitmyren wrote:
Hans-Joerg Frieden wrote:
Max Larsson wrote:
These information could be helpfull.
I can only stress again that the Mac people actually already *have* a good X11 server implementation. I don't think that we want to have OOo in an AmiX11 window, so the only option would be to re-implement X ourselves.
XAmi worked very nice for me, I've used X11 a bunch of times before on Amiga. When it comes to time-to-market, X11 is going to be YEARS ahead of a native port. At least that's what the analysis from the guy behind NeoOffice/J suggests. So while most people should work on the native things, we should make sure it stays useable on XAmi at all times.
You know that the J on NeoOffice/J stands for Java... IIRC does NeoOffice/J use Java very much... and it is not the official OOo port for MacOS X - I know it is the only one that works at the moment, but it is still not the official one as they have changed a lot of the code (the official OOo port for MacOS X is going to be build directly from the OOo CVS sources). Wouldn't it be better if we at the beginning - if it is needed - would make use of XAmi or any other X11 port that can be used on OS4, and when we make it work on Workbench, using AGG, when X11 support would be dropped? I think it would be a step in the wrong direction, if we should use X11 to run our Office suite :-( I think I would more likely restart the computer and use it on Debian GNU/Linux then. -- Best regards, hnl_dk - Henning Nielsen Lund
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Alexander Lohrmann -
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Mark bond -
Max Larsson -
Max Larsson -
Ochal Christophe -
Ole-Egil Hvitmyren -
Peter Bengtsson -
Rose Humphrey -
Tony Wyatt