Hi Mark & Rose,

*Notice the Amiga OpenOffice PR hat I'm wearing now*

Don't be surprised if every now and then somebody we've not seen here before pops in and asks for the status of the project. As per de facto this project has its supporters and it's nay-sayers. In this case 'Info' failed to provide info about himself, but a quick check of www.amigaplatform.com (a site I personally didn't know existed before his visit here) shows a bilingual Amiga related website, of which the English section doesn't contain much. Anyhow: *Maybe* 'Info' was looking for a news item here.

My suggestion: let's only kick booty when we're 100% sure it's Troll-booty.

*PR hat off*

Regards,

Peter / RinceWynd

-----Original Message----- From: openoffice-os4-admin@samfundet.no [mailto:openoffice-os4-admin@samfundet.no] On Behalf Of Mark Bond Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 4:23 PM To: openoffice-os4@samfundet.no Subject: [OO.org-OS4] Re: ...

Hello Rose,

exactly what I was thinking and didnt say ;-)

Mark

On 04/052005, you wrote:

Le 04/052005, Info - Amigaplatform a écrit :

...

Hi to all,

what about amiga openoffice ?

What about it?

...

Is the porting delayed ? Cancelled o stopped ?

Ah, I see. You know nothing about programming, couldn't be bothered to read through the list archives and think it's clever to spam this list instead. Go away if you can't make yourself useful

...

The mailing list is empty of news..

It's fully of bloody HTML now.

(Apologies to everyone else, but I can't stand spoilers. They create way too much noise and do much more harm than good)

Salutations

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Hi Luke,

Now that you mention translation, I had a deja-vu. Maybe you offered your services during one of the IRC-sessions?

BTW, thanks for introducing yourself. It helps putting your previous mail in perspective.

Kind regards,

Peter / RinceWynd

-----Original Message----- From: openoffice-os4-admin@samfundet.no [mailto:openoffice-os4-admin@samfundet.no] On Behalf Of info Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 5:55 PM To: openoffice-os4@samfundet.no Subject: [OO.org-OS4] Re: ...

Hi Peter, Mark & Rose,

I'm sorry for my "nosiness".

It's true ! I'm not a programmer, I'm only an italian Amiga's user

I'm Luke the co-founder of the italian website amigaplatform dedicated to Amiga.

@ Peter

The english section of our site is under construction, but the english language is not our objective...we are focused on italian market.

I have subscribe your mailing list because I'm sure that this porting of

Openoffice is a good idea...and because my team is expert (and ready) for making handbook, documentations and more... We are not programmers...sorry.

Sorry again!

Luke

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Hi Rose,

do you need technical documents or a doc writer?

We are here !

PS: I have read the interview to you on the electronic amiga's magazine "obliegement" (Is name correct ? :-) )...great!

By

Luke

----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose Humphrey" aos4@amont-info.com To: openoffice-os4@samfundet.no Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [OO.org-OS4] Re: ...

On Mer 4 mai 2005 17:54, info a écrit :

I have subscribe your mailing list because I'm sure that this porting of Openoffice is a good idea...and because my team is expert (and ready) for making handbook, documentations and more... We are not programmers...sorry.

DON'T MOVE! Stop *right* there. You have no idea just how badly we need doc writers.

Hello Jorgen (hmm where's the umlaut when I need it?),

On 2005-05-04, you wrote:

...

My suggestion: let's only kick booty when we're 100% sure it's Troll-booty.

I'm here and at amizillas ML but not being very usefull ;-) . Anyway,

I

usually just read the mails because I find it interesting. What I

think

that everybody should understand is that if there are complete silence about a projekt like this (AmiZilla, Paihia, AOS 4 etc....) people

wonders

why, what's happened since they last read about it. Months of silence

can

be quite painfull ;-) . Even a line like "we've done about 30% work"

or

"work continues, we've doen a bit but there is still much left" is

really

enough.

First of all, IMO lurking is no problem at all. At this point in tiem I'm mainly a lurker here myself, my 'tasks' being PR and testing both of which require little work given the projects still early stages. The utterly weird thing however is, that every person/group trying to do something constructive in the world of Amiga attracts a number of vocal Trolls. A percentage of those disguise themselves as unknowing first-time posters. (I'm pretty sure you've seen this phenomenon on the well-known fora). That makes it hard to distinguish between said Trolls and true first-posters. Alas that sometimes results in the true first-poster receiving a less warm welcome than he/she deserves. In Luke's case I hope there's no damage done.

Putting my PR cap back on, one of our ideas was/is to publish news-worthy statements when we have one. Just the message "we're alive and coding, albeit slowly" doesn't really cut it IMHO. On this level the golden-oldy 'no news is good news' rule applies. An untimely death of this project would surely be news-worthy tho.

It's not that people are idiots not understanding that you're working

on

it!

Like I mentioned, I usually don't write at all at these MLs but I want

you

to think twice before you accuse someone for trolling. Calm down a

little

and be fair.

Well, I'm breaking a record here myself :-). Anyways, if you reread my message to Mark & Rose you'll see that you and I agree about thinking twice...

My opinion offcourse. I'll probably go back to being quiet now ;-) .

Thanks for being constructive!

And thanks for the work that you're doing, everyone involved with

Amiga >are very excited about it, I'm sure.

Regards /Jörgen Danielsson

Regards,

Peter / RinceWynd

Hi Rose,

Spoil-sport :( Actually, I apologise for being a bit short-tempered. I've been suffering from Trolls and Idiots, a bad mix wth health problems.

sorry to hear that but always remember:

Never apologise, Always blame someone else ;-)

Salutations

Regards

Mark